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Brad Jacobs on building eight billion-dollar companies
Executive overview
Brad Jacobs has started eight separate billion-dollar companies across garbage, construction, transportation, logistics, and now distribution — each using an identical playbook. The playbook works because the industries share the same characteristics, not because the industries are the same.
The repeatable edge: find a fragmented, tech-laggard industry; recruit superlative people; align them with locked-up equity; buy companies at disciplined prices; then double EBITDA in three to five years.
Getting the major trend right
- Mentor Ludwig Jesselson's core rule: if you get the long-term trend wrong, a thousand other correct decisions still lose.
- Map what did happen, is happening, and will likely happen — assign probabilities to each future state.
- The main trend for two million years: humans outsource tasks to tools. AI, robotics, and automation are the current wave.
- Screen industries for resistance to near-term AI disruption before committing capital.
- Jacobs ruled out online education (Chegg) early; the stock fell from $50 to single digits.
Selecting the right industry
- Must be large, growing, and fragmented.
- Acquisition targets must be available at reasonable — not cheap — prices.
- Technology adoption must be low enough that the toolkit adds visible uplift.
- AI and automation must not be able to disrupt it in the foreseeable future.
Recruiting and keeping A players
- The CEO's most important job is recruiting superlative people — more time goes here than anywhere else.
- Mental test: picture that person walking in to quit. Pure terror = A player. Mild inconvenience = B player. Relief = C player; remove them now.
- There is no substitute for raw intelligence; screen for it first, eliminating 90% of candidates.
- Pair IQ with honesty, work ethic, collegiality, and genuine commitment — technical skill alone is insufficient.
- Give senior people heavy equity locked for five years, most vesting in the final two years; it aligns everyone on the long horizon.
- Organization is like a party: only invite people who raise the energy.
Building a super-organism management team
- Target 20–25 people for the monthly operating review (MOR) — enough for diverse perspectives, small enough for vulnerability.
- Before the MOR, distribute all pre-reads; each person submits key takeaways and questions via app; the group ranks them 1–10.
- Only questions rated 8–10 become the agenda — crowd-sourced, not dictated from above.
- The CEO opens with ~one hour: balanced state-of-the-union covering wins and gaps. Then mostly listens.
- End-of-meeting human rounds: who disagrees with something said today; biggest single takeaway; MVP in the field; whose star rose and why; "I resolve to improve the company by…"
- Closing ritual: stand in a circle, silently project gratitude and good wishes for each person; declare the day a success.
Feedback loops and information flow
- Share information more widely than feels comfortable — the benefit of collective learning outweighs competitive risk.
- Read employee surveys personally; Jacobs asks two questions: best idea to improve the company and job satisfaction 1–10.
- Ask frontline employees: "What's the stupidest thing we're doing?" and "What's the smartest thing we're doing?"
- The person handling a process for eight hours a day knows something the CEO in the office does not.
- Bezos published his email and read customer replies; Jim Casey pulled over to talk to UPS drivers; Sam Walton left meetings early to visit stores. Unfiltered access is the pattern.
Buying companies and creating value
- Two non-negotiable levers: grow organic revenue faster than the market and expand margins. Everything else flows from these.
- Discipline on price: look at many candidates simultaneously so you never fall in love with any one deal.
- Over 500 acquisitions; thousands of candidates reviewed.
- Target: double EBITDA within three to five years by improving pricing (elasticity algorithms), procurement, compensation structures, HR systems, and technology stack.
- Being public provides free advice from the world's best capital allocators, accelerates talent attraction, and lets employees see the real-time value of their equity.
Managing time and energy
- Time and capital are the only two things a CEO controls; how they're deployed equals results.
- A CEO must be across all ~20 domains (people, tech, budgets, pricing, customers, sales, procurement, M&A, etc.) — not just the ones they like.
- Filter every request through WOTWOM: waste of time, waste of money. If it doesn't influence organic growth or margin, cut it.
- Use a chief of staff who deeply understands your two to three priority levers; let them gate the calendar accordingly.
- Warren Buffett's benchmark: a mostly empty calendar is proof of wealth — because time is the real scarce resource.
Mindset: problems, perfectionism, and going all in
- Problems are not threats to tolerate; they are the mechanism of value creation. Run toward them.
- Perfectionism — demanding that self, others, and the universe perform flawlessly — causes unnecessary stress and distorts reality. Reduce musts to preferences.
- Cognitive therapy helped Jacobs identify automatic negative thoughts, validate them, then dispute them against evidence.
- Context from meditation (expanding and contracting perspective across space and time) creates humility and proportion.
- The driven people Jacobs admires were not fuelled by trauma or insecurity — they were energised by the work itself.
- The exit strategy for people who love what they do is death. If you truly love it, they couldn't pay you to stop.
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